Hmmmmm

[Doirche]

Anyone plan on buying THIS ????

[Zherbus]

I wanted "fuck no", but I took what I could get.

[Doirche]

I wanted "fuck no", but I took what I could get.

ROFLMFAO

[Halaster Blackcloak]

I'd sooner sever my own testicles with a dull, rusty butter-knife than buy that crap!

[jeffx]

Anyone plan on buying THIS ????

Yup. I had the choice of severing my own testicles or buying the 4E core rules. My level head prevailed so I pre-ordered.

For what it is worth, I have a copy of the quick start rules. It leaves lots of questions and I'm still going to give playing it a shot but I don't think I will be leaving 2E anytime soon [1]. There are two rules in the quick start that I don't like. Healing surges, actually second wind and the minor rest thing. Don't remember the rule but basically you get your skills back if you rest for 5 minutes. Oh yeah, and the video of the WotC employee saying miniatures weren't required is a f'ing liar. Okay maybe not required but a DM would have to be into causing himself pain to not use miniatures.

There are some good things I have seen but will wait until I see a PHB before I comment.

[1] My opinion may change after actually playing it.

[Doirche]

Yup. I had the choice of severing my own testicles or buying the 4E core rules. My level head prevailed so I pre-ordered.

So how come I have 7 "Hell No's" and ZERO "Yes's"????

[Mira]

Are you really that surprised?

Mira (Jesse Jackson, Jim Bakker, and Jimmy Swaggert have written an impressive new book ... It's called: "Ministers Do More Than Lay People.")

[Varl]

The only interest I have in 4e are features of the game I can strip mine from it for my game and convert said rules to my 2e game, and to give them a 2e feel.

I'm not so old school that I'll refuse to look at new rules I haven't seen yet and dismiss them out of hand, but I'm also not interested in purchasing them either. Heh. That's why I wait for the reviews or an "SRD" or whatever of the 4e rules, so I can glean what I need for 0 cost. And if for some reason I can't get the information, I'll do without.

But, to be honest, I've flat out grown weary of new rules. WotC is bent on delivering new core game rulesets seemingly annually rather than juicy content any edition could use (or even convert if needs be), so what money I do spend on gaming products will still be spent on miniatures, monsters, and modules, as it has been since 1999 or so. The rest is crap.

[jeffx]

Yup. I had the choice of severing my own testicles or buying the 4E core rules. My level head prevailed so I pre-ordered.

So how come I have 7 "Hell No's" and ZERO "Yes's"????

Because I am a doofus and didn't hit "yes".

I am interested in 4E for several reasons. First, and most important, is the online gaming features. I am insanely curious about it. With the thing I am trying to do with the local library system, the modern version is the best choice. With Amazon's pre-order discount I am not going to find a cheaper version of the core books at any point so I'm taking the risk.

[McDeath]

Each book is guaranteed to come with a parasitic brain devourer that makes you want to buy more and more of that shit. I've read (well skimmed through quickly) through a dozen pdfs of 3rd ed and wasn't impressed with the mechanics, etc. I'm not even going to bother looking at 4th.

[Algolei]

The only interest I have in 4e are features of the game I can strip mine from it for my game....

Ditto. But I won't pay for any 4E crap. If I can't steal it or borrow it, I'll be content to die never having seen it.

[Torctref Spleenkiller]

Well it looks like the voting window has elapsed...But I would have said "No"...I'm pretty solidly old school...1e and maybe 2e...much after that and I'm not really interested. To me its just not AD&D...it becomes a marketing ploy.